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Post by ThatOneFox » June 8th, 2014, 2:44 am

The thing is, all anti-depressants do is release Dopamine into the brain, so the argument here is if you feel happy, then you're going to kill someone? Perhaps the article missed the point, instead of blaming the anti-depressants, maybe these people performed mass shootings because they were depressed?
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Post by Phantomboy » June 8th, 2014, 9:13 am

Or perhaps the attention should be diverted towards further testing anti-depressants. Also, and I haven't honestly looked to see if this is the case or not, but background checks should be required all gun transfers and purchases and these background checks should look at the medications the person has taken.
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Post by ElectroYoshi » June 8th, 2014, 11:11 am

Phantomboy wrote:Or perhaps the attention should be diverted towards further testing anti-depressants.

This. Seriously... anti-depressants cause more problems than they solve, and almost everyone agrees. Why they don't get tested further already is beyond me.
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Post by Phantomboy » June 8th, 2014, 11:59 am

I can't claim that, I have such a distant connection with the affects of anti-depressants that I cannot say rather or not they cause more issues than the solve. As someone who has never been chronically depressed, I cannot vouch for how necessary or helpful they are. I know very little of my mothers experience with them, and even less of my cousin.

So, I do think much further testing and warnings should be given towards anti-depressants. However, I think giving more attention towards hearing the emotions and thoughts of those using these medications is also very important.
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Post by Rattle » May 10th, 2016, 10:43 am

tta wrote:
ElectroYoshi wrote:The thing is, the article is more about the rope anti-depressants play.

i like to play ropes as well. jumpropes, skip-its, that sort of thing.
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Post by Miniike » May 10th, 2016, 12:54 pm

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Post by DvChayz » May 11th, 2016, 12:11 am

when was racism made illegal

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Post by Miniike » May 11th, 2016, 7:24 am

DvChayz wrote:when was racism made illegal
in 2013 when all the sjws were killed
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Post by DvChayz » May 11th, 2016, 2:56 pm

my parents were in the sjw holocaust don't joke about that you insensitive fucc

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Post by Phantomboy » May 11th, 2016, 3:17 pm

Okay, I'm perfectly fine to unlock this, if anyone would like to continue the discussion. Although, because of the recent posts and the threads age.. I don't REALLY see that happening. Message me if you disagree, of course! :)

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Post by ThatOneFox » June 13th, 2016, 2:39 am

Gonna unlock this because of recent events.

Well another day, another mass shooting in america. The fact that you can just go out and buy a gun is insane. They should all need a license, background checks and safety lessons to own (did you know toddlers killed more people in the US in 2016 than terrorism?). I'm not saying ban all guns, but it's not like you need a fuckin ak-47 to defend your home or go hunting with... "O Shit honey there's someone in the house"

"It's fine honey, as soon as they walk in I'll turn them into a thin red paste".

The shooter in this case was an ISIS extremist, and once again the internet is filled with comments such as "BAN THE MUSLIMS FROM THE US, ISLAM IS INHERENTLY A TERRIBLE RELIGION"

I'm not saying Islam isn't an inherently terrible religion, but news flash fuckers, MOST FUCKIN RELIGIONS are terrible. Just read any fuckin religious scripture and you'd find shit like stoning homosexuals to death. What matters is what people take from these religious scriptures. If you really want to stop extremist acts like the one committed, you need to target the source of extremist teachings, not just outright ban all islamics from entering a country because that will only achieve two things
1- Revoking any religious freedom in the US
2- Creating a further divide between the islamic middle east and the west (which is exactly what ISIS want btw just sayin ;) )

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guns need to be regulated better, but not outright banned. teachers of extremism, islamic or otherwise, should be prosecuted.

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Post by Phantomboy » June 13th, 2016, 6:25 pm

I am not familiar with the legalities of owning a firearm in the United States, so please correct me if I am wrong. Although, I don't believe you can just go out and buy a gun. If I recall, there are permits, and some loose amounts of checks. Now, while I agree it needs to be a lot more thorough, and I second the thought of stricter regulation over banning... I do feel like saying "you can just buy a gun, no questions asked" is a tiny bit of a misnomer, and just a little bit off.

It also feels a little bit wrong to talk about Islamic extremist terror groups, and just those of Islamic faith in general, within the same sentence with very little distinction... as those are two very different groups. I have nothing against those who practice any religion, as most people understand that modern religious texts were written in very different cultures. In the same way many old films are filled with racist and sexist content, many religious texts included a lot of context which is very reflective of the cultures they were written in. I mean, we don't think about how the groups we condemn in the modern era are "just obtuse in the eyes of the culture we are part of, and that may change in the future, so our texts should reflect that." In fact, it is really difficult to get many people to recognise that they behave the way they do because of their culture and upbringing.

If I am being a bit off topic, I do apologise... it's just, we pretty much all know what the general responses to this event will be, because as said as it is to say, we've been here before. It is a terrible thing to have happened. It could have been prevented with stricter regulation. No one religion is at fault, and we should respect those of different cultures, but condemn acts of violence between different social, religious and cultural groups.
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Post by Miniike » June 13th, 2016, 6:41 pm

I'm not anti-gun ownership but the fact that bearing arms is a constitutional right in the US is ridiculous. It's something that I've always been kind of numb too but whenever I talk to non-Americans they always bring up the fact that it's just a reprehensibly stupid idea.
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Post by ElectroYoshi » June 13th, 2016, 8:52 pm

I honestly feel a little ashamed now that I was ever on the other side of the gun regulation issue. Not helping is the fact that I made this thread when I was 16... As in, I WAS OLD ENOUGH TO HANDLE A FREAKING CAR.

The thing about the Constitution is that it hasn't translated well into the 21st century. Most of what it talks about is still relevant, but the thing was ratified in the 18th century and none of it has been updated to reflect modern times. And the 2nd is no different. In fact, I think you could easily argue that the 2nd is the most outdated of the bunch. Back then, the BEST gun you could buy was a musket that couldn't even hold multiple rounds at a time, let alone fire off 500 in the span of a minute.

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And honestly, why does the 2nd Amendment even still qualify as a halfway-decent argument against regulation of guns? When this kind of thing is considered an everyday part of life, there is a problem, free country or not. Gun whackos are constantly screaming about how that's a violation of their second amendment rights... Well, sorry, but if you think that background checks are a violation of your 2nd amendment rights, you're probably the kind of person they're designed to screen for.

Edit: I've re-purposed the thread into a general gun violence thread.

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Post by ThatOneFox » June 14th, 2016, 1:46 am

The only reason the 2nd amendment exists was so that if the british tried re-colonizing the US, the citizens could fight against it.
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Post by Phantomboy » June 14th, 2016, 9:13 am

In the modern era, the main reason that the second amendment exists unchanged, is because it established a culture of firearm ownership which for one reason or another still rings provocative to citizens today. That is largely due in part of how much of the expansion westward was viewed and glorified, and how for many years, and even to this day, the United States sees having a gun as being a mark of strength. Despite having a government which is largely about establishing and enforcing "the system" we have a populous which is still very distrusting of that system. It feels like many assume the point to raise up against our government will just come upon us, like it was the 1780's again... and with muskets and violence, a set few will once again go about forming a new government.

Like, I doubt many actually believe that to be the case. It's a little naive to think that of people, there is certainly an air to the culture of some Americans who feel somewhat of a responsibility like that. Whilst I obviously cannot speak for them, I think there is definitely a historical and cultural lineage tying Americans to weapons. Which, like ThatOneFox and ElectroYoshi have said, is increasingly dated. To own a firearm in 2016, is vastly different than owning a firearm in revolutionary era America. Yet because culture progresses slowly, change is a resistive process, we have a vestige of this bygone era still practised and enforced, whilst most of the rest of the world has realised the dangers of firearms and have protected themselves. I am not saying Americans are naive by choice, but I do think the culture you are raised under largely shapes the person you become and a lot of United States citizens are raised under this dated view of firearms.
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Post by Rattle » June 14th, 2016, 4:12 pm

ElectroYoshi wrote:I honestly feel a little ashamed now that I was ever on the other side of the gun regulation issue. Not helping is the fact that I made this thread when I was 16... As in, I WAS OLD ENOUGH TO HANDLE A FREAKING CAR.

The thing about the Constitution is that it hasn't translated well into the 21st century. Most of what it talks about is still relevant, but the thing was ratified in the 18th century and none of it has been updated to reflect modern times. And the 2nd is no different. In fact, I think you could easily argue that the 2nd is the most outdated of the bunch. Back then, the BEST gun you could buy was a musket that couldn't even hold multiple rounds at a time, let alone fire off 500 in the span of a minute.

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And honestly, why does the 2nd Amendment even still qualify as a halfway-decent argument against regulation of guns? When this kind of thing is considered an everyday part of life, there is a problem, free country or not. Gun whackos are constantly screaming about how that's a violation of their second amendment rights... Well, sorry, but if you think that background checks are a violation of your 2nd amendment rights, you're probably the kind of person they're designed to screen for.

Edit: I've re-purposed the thread into a general gun violence thread.
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Re: Gun violence in America (Mass shooting thread re-purposed)

Post by Rattle » February 3rd, 2019, 3:24 am

my opinion on mass shootings is, well, theres potential for epicness in each one. you just got to shoot the right people kid. this is todd "tta" atmosphir signing off :--)

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